The Minus 5 vs. The Young Fresh Fellows
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The Minus 5 vs. The Young Fresh Fellows

The Young Fresh Fellows
"For the Love of a Girl (new classic version)" [Real Quicktime]

The Minus 5
"You Don't Mean It" [Real Quicktime]

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"Sprawling and messy, yet oddly perfect, this world-class battle of the bands comes out too close to call. The real winner here is the listener."
Time Out New York - March 15, 2001

"Minus 5 features one of the great rock stars of the alternative era, a guitarist and songwriter so inventive and talented that even this side project focused on whimsical folk-pop is pure genius. Yes, it's Scott McCaughey of the Young Fresh Fellows."

New York Times - March 9, 2001

"The two discs deserve a Consumer Guide award for providing so much great pop material at such a bargain price."

LA New Times - March 7, 2001.



The Malt Label (“Beer and whiskey — is there anything they can’t do?”), in conjunctive with Mammoth Records (“We do all the work, and pay for everything”), doth hereby present:

MORE THAN YOU EVER WOULDN’T WANT TO KNOW
ABOUT THE MINUS 5 and THE YOUNG FRESH FELLOWS

“The past is important because it shows us who we would have been. The future is dimwitted and dull, the present languorous and sticky with the smug scent of hibiscus.” — Scott McCaughey, Sept. 2000

The Young Fresh Fellows - Because We Hate You You know how the guy in L.A. Confidential was shot like 20 times and presumed dead but at the end was inexplicably alive and driving off with Kim Basinger to boot? That, in a nutshell, is The Young Fresh Fellows Story. Founded on David Crosby’s principle that Music Is Love, the Fellows started late, finished last, and had a blast doing it. But why the past tense? In concrete fact the band never died OR went to Australia. They did faint once though after a hard night in Idaho.

“They are extremely talented and extremely unfocused.” — Rolling Stone, 1992

It all started in 1983 or 1980. Chuck Carroll and Scott McCaughey moved from Cotati, California to Seattle, Washington with their records and guitars, inhabited a $100/month basement and bought a Teac 3340 reel-to-reel 4-track.

Which brings us to 2001 and a new album, Because We Hate You, its elephant-like gestation a source of both pride and frustration for YFFers Scott, Kurt, Tad, and Jim. The group’s long-suffering fans can once again step outside to feel the sun warm their lashes, as they raise their countenances and sigh, resigned yet content.

“They seem capable of playing virtually anything.” — Melody Maker, 1987

Because We Hate You is the album someone has been waiting for. It is, as are all Fellows albums, an infected refraction of the band members’ gargantuan musical tastes, incorporating new wave, disco, ragtime, new wave, impressionism, show tunes, conjunto and fetishism into a heady, seamless mess.

“They are direct about their indirection.” — Some Magazine, 1996

Much of this new album was recorded in Scott or Jim’s basements. And much of it was recorded in real fine studios. And some of it was recorded in a carton of milk. Who gives a shit?

“They don’t take their humor seriously.” — Cashbox, 1988.

With the almost guaranteed success of Because We Hate You lying ahead, the Young Fresh Fellows have a new lease on life. In the coming years, the group plans to record another song, and there is even talk of a live concert in the works. The sky is the limit!

“If you think we’re good, they’re the best band in the world.” — Paul Westerberg, Creem, 1987

“They are still the greatest rock and roll band on the planet.” — Cohen/Krugman, Culture Bunker, 2000

The Minus 5 - Let the War Against Music Begin In Eyes Wide Shut, there is a wild group orgy or something (I haven’t seen it yet), but it is done in a very artistic and intellectual way. That, in a porthole, is THE MINUS 5 STORY. In this metaphor, then, Scott McCaughey would get to be Stanley Kubrick. And Peter Buck would be Tom Cruise, and Ken Stringfellow would be Nicole Kidman. This is working out really well.

“The Lonesome Death of Buck McCoy quakes with the severely compressed intimacy and hazy chamber-ballad tension of recent R.E.M. (no surprise) and John Lennon (the vigorously confessional Plastic Ono Band era). — David Fricke, No Depression, 1997.

Whenever McCaughey (or McCoy as he’s often pronounced) is not jaunting jauntily around the world with R.E.M. (playing guitar, keyboards, bass, popping corks, etc.), or raising hell (albeit middle-aged hell, which is still quite hellish, and more embarrassing) with the Young Fresh Fellows, it is likely that he will be gathering some version of the Minus 5 together to make rude and beautiful noises sleep in the same bed.

And the latest results are Let The War Against Music Begin. Like the first two Minus 5 albums, it is a concept album. “I thought it would be cool to do an album about death, loneliness, alcoholism, and despair, but have sleigh bells on every song,” explains Scott.

“Most of the songs are inexplicably sad, or sadly inexplicable.” — The Bob, 1995

A typically wonderful cast performs the twelve songs on the new album. Buck and McCaughey are everywhere with valiant and poignant contributions from Ken Posie, Barrett Martin (Screaming Trees), Jon Auer (Posies, Big Star), Morgan Fisher (Mott The Hoople), Robyn Hitchcock, Sean O’Hagan and Rob Allum (High Llamas), Jason Finn (Presidents of USA), Dennis Diken (Smithereens), Kid Krupa (Revillos), Steve Berlin (Los Lobos), etc.

“There’s a melancholy ambience, but the classic guitar play and pithy, succinct arrangements suggest a jukeboxful of jangling, emotive ‘60s pop psychedelia ... a real treasure.” — Q, 1997

The year 2000 has seen an unholy share of live performances, with an almost “regular” band of McCaughey, Buck, John Ramberg (Model Rockets), and Bill Rieflin (ex-Ministry), with John Wesley Harding, Ken, Barrett, Chris Ballew (Presidents, Giraffes), oft on board as well. Even Wilco had a turn as the Minus 5, performing an all-new set with Scott in Chicago last January. The line-up will no doubt continue to solidify and crumble, according to the weather. And that, dear friend, is how it should be.

“As we advance to make our bow, you will look in vain for signs of servility or for any evidence of a slavish desire to please. We are an arrogant and a depraved body of men. We are as proud as bantams and as vain as peacocks. A sardonic laugh escapes us as we bow, cruel and cynical hounds that we are. It is a terrible laugh, the laugh of lost men. Do you get the smell of porter?”
— Myles na Gopaleen, Blather, 1934




THE MINUS 5 Discography


(#1) Hello EP (Hello Recording Club 1994)
“I Still Miss Someone” (Love Is My Only Crime compilation, Veracity, Germany 1994)
(#2) Old Liquidator (Glitterhouse/East Side Digital 1995; Malt/Hollywood 1997)
(#3) Emperor Of The Bathroom EP (East Side Digital 1995)
“Power To The People” (Working Class Hero compilation, Hollywood 1995)
“Find A Finger” (Live At The Crocodile compilation, PopLlama 1996)
(#4) The Lonesome Death Of Buck McCoy (Malt/Hollywood 1997)
“The Vulture #4” (The Big Choice compilation, Bands We Like 1997)
(#5) My Chartreuse Opinion (re-issue of 1989 McCaughey LP) (Malt/Hollywood 1997)
“People Say” (Songs of Ellie Greenwich & Jeff Barry compilation, PolyGram 1997)
“Government Center” (An Evenings In Edenbrook Forest compilation, Book 1997)
“Doodle” (More Oar: A Tribute To The Skip Spence Album, Birdman 1999)
“Find A Finger” (Houston Party Compilation Vol. 1, Houston Party, Spain 1999)
“Ghost Tarts Of Stockholm” (Hit The Hay Vol. 3, Sound Asleep, Sweden 1999)
(#6) A Thousand Years Away b/w Echos Myron/Wicked Annabella 45 (Houston Party, Spain 2000)
(#7) Let The War Against Music Begin (Mammoth/Malt 2001)
(#8) Let The War Against Music Begin Vol. 2 (Malt/Book 2001)
(#9) The Minus 5 In Rock (Book 2000)


THE YOUNG FRESH FELLOWS Discography

Albums
The Fabulous Sounds of the Pacific Northwest — PopLlama 4/84
Topsy Turvy — PopLlama 11/85
The Men Who Loved Music — PopLlama/Frontier 3/87
Totally Lost — Frontier 4/88
Beans and Tolerance (the Bootleg Album) — no label (LP only) 1/89
This One’s For The Ladies — Frontier 9/89
Electric Bird Digest — Frontier 5/91
Somos Los Mejores (compilation) — Munster (Spain) 12/91
Gleich Jetzt — 1+2 (Japan-CD only) 10/92
It’s Low Beat Time — Frontier CD/Munster LP 10/92
Take it Like A Matador (Live in Madrid) — Impossible (Spain-CD only) 10/93
A Tribute To Music — Rock & Roll Inc. (Spain) 1/97

Mini-LPs/CD EPs
Refreshments — PopLlama/Frontier 9/87
Includes a Helmet — Utility (U.K.) 6/90
Temptation on Saturday — PopLlama CD/Munster 10” 12/93

CDs (different from LPs of the same title)
The Fabulous Sounds of the Pacific Northwest/ Topsy Turvy — ESD ‘87 / PopLlama ‘95
The Men Who Loved Music /Refreshments — Frontier ‘89

45s
YFF Update Theme/Three Sides to This Story — PopLlama 6/85
Beer Money/Fillet Of Soul/Crusters Theme — PopLlama 12/86
My Boyfriend’s in Killdozer (split w/Scruffy the Cat) — Cruddy 10/89
Divorce #9/Halloween — PopLlama ‘90*
Two Guitars Bass and Drums/Someone I Care about — Pravda 9/90*
Dancin’ in the Moonlight/Do You Care Theme (as GunSharpners) — Cruddy 10/90
Motor Broke/Equator Blues — Cruddy 11/90*
Don’t Blame it on Yoko/With a Big Book — Frontier 1/91*
Sick and Tired of Me/They Raided the Joint/Booze Party — Skullduggery 3/91*
Purple Sweater/2 Guitars/Rotation/Sesame Street — Lance Rock 4/91
Hits From the Breakup Album (Box Set of 45’s marked *) — ESC Brand 5/91
Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Da/Skyscraper of Facts/Teen Thing — ElectroBird 5/91
I Hate Everything/Fetid/I’m not Bitter — no label 9/91
Mathisization/New YFF Theme (w/Richard Peterson) — PopLlama 12/91
Dark Corner of the World (split w/Dharma Bums) — Frontier (U.K.) 3/92
Sometimes I Wantcha For Your Money/ One Day You Die — Munster (Spain) 12/91
On Your Hands/Little Trip to Heaven... — Screaming Apple (Germany) 10/92
Stewed/Something True — Who Cares 10/92
Stop Breathing (split w/ Mutant Monster Beach Party) — 1+2 (Japan) 11/93
Benzedrine Beat EP;99 Girls,She Wont Budge,plus 2 — Au-go-go (Australia) 2/94
Rampage EP (as The Boatrampmen) — Cruddy 5/94
Gorilla Time/Mo’ Gorilla — Telstar 10/94

Compilations (with unreleased songs/versions)
“I’m an Artiste on Frontier” Diamonds at a Discount — Frontier ‘88
“We’re The Best” Spontaneous Consumer Frenzy — Pop ‘90
“High Time” Here Ain’t the Sonics — PopLlama/Estrus ‘90
“Sometimes I Wantcha For Your Money” Estrus Lunch Bucket — Estrus ‘90
“Yankee Magazine” lyrics by Ernest Noyes Brookings Vol. 2 — ESD ‘91
“Black Betty” 20 Explosive Super Smash Hit Explosions — Pravda ‘91
“I Just Sit There”/”Last Show”/”Pammie’s on a Bummer” Bonograph — Bogus ‘91
“She Might Look My Way” Not the Singer But The Songs — Munster (Spain) ‘91
“Fan Club”/”Life Goes On” Another Damned Seattle Compilation — Dashboard Hula Girl ‘91
“O Little Town of Bethlehem” A Lump of Coal — First Warning ‘91
“Mad John’s Escape” Donovan Island of Circles — Nettwerk (Canada) ‘91
“Craise Finton Kirk Royal Academy Of Arts” Melody Fair — Eggbert ‘93
“Yankee Magazine” (slow version) Hit the Hay — Sound Asleep (Sweden) ‘93
“Whenever You’re Ready”/”Indication” The World Of The Zombies — PopLlama ‘94
“I Couldn’t Spell !!*@! (w/Roy Loney) Turban Renewal — Norton ‘94
“Bookstore” Soda Punx — Top Drawer ‘94
“For the Love of a Girl” Love is my Only Crime Vol 2 — Veracity (Germany) ‘94
“Disco Sucks” Oh Canaduh! — Lance Rock (Canada) ‘95
“Agar’s Revenge” Bite Back - Live At The Crocodile — PopLlama ‘96
“Doin’ The Banana Split” Banana Splits Tribute — Skullduggery 7” ‘96
“Dark Corner Of The World” Hype soundtrack (45 box set) — SubPop ‘96
“Heartache” DFFD - A Tribute To The Dictators Vol. II — Roto (Spain) ‘97
“Takin’ My Love” English Rose-Tribute To The Jam — ALCA (Japan) ‘97
“Have I The Right”/”Can’t Get Beside Her”/”Something Like That”
An Evenings In Edenbrook Forest — Book 12/97
“Shakedown” Our Favorite Texan: Bobby Fuller Four-Ever! — #9 Records (Japan) ‘99
“Your Truth Our Lies” Houston Party Compilations Vol. 1 — Houston Party (Spain) ‘99
“Barky’s Spiritual Store #2” Day Dreaming With An Empty Station Wagon — Dizzy ‘99

See Also:
Fastbacks, Squirrels, Picketts, R.E.M., Jimmy Silva, Roy Loney &
The Long Shots, Tuatara, New Original Sonic Sound, etc.



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